UN-ORTHODOX JEW: The Enemy Within-Part Three-Chassidism Is Not Judaism

UN-ORTHODOX JEW: The Enemy Within-Part Three-Chassidism Is Not Judaism
Saturday, August 06, 2005
The Enemy Within-Part Three-Chassidism Is Not Judaism

Make no mistake, Chassidism is not part of authentic Judaism.

In matter of fact it is closer to Christianity than to Judaism.

Orthodox Jews believe that ALL of the principles of Judaism were given to Moshe at Sinai.
The written Torah and the oral Torah were dictated to Moshe by Hashem for the forty days he was at Sinai.

The roots of the Chassidic movement did not begin until the thirteenth century, when Moses De-Leon started the writings of the Zohar.
About three hundred years later, Isaac Luria(ARI) started preaching this mystic garble.
The Ari as he was known, was an enigma.
He purported to preach the thoughts of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai, who lived fifteen hundred years earlier.
The problem is that there was no known link of mesorah or chain of events, going back to that time, from RSBY to him or to De-Leon.

Orthodox Jews believe that the Torah m'Sinai was transmitted from father to son, generation after generation, traceable back to Moshe.
The fact that there was no link from the Ari or De-Leon to RSBY, and therefore no link back to Sinai, would eliminate the Zohar or Kabballah from effectively being part of Judaism.

The most we can rationally say about the Zohar, that it was a" theory" of a few people, and no more.

Chassidim, have their entire canon(or myths) based entirely on the writings of the Zohar, and the rantings of an unlearned bal agalah or horse and buggy driver, known as the Baal Shem Tov or the Besht.
The Besht, being the very first Forest Ranger, hanging out with the animals in the forest and talking to the trees, set a precedent for todays rebbes who hang out in their ghettos with their animals.

Tales of the Besht are just that, buba maases, or in english fairy tales .(In Brooklyn we call it unadulterated BS).

The Vilna Gaon called the Besht a heretic and a lunatic, and considered that movement outside of Judaism.

Rabbi Aron Kotler refused to let chassidim into Lakewood. When he ultimately relented under great pressure, he forbade them to wear their shtreimels in the bais medrash.

It is difficult enough for any Jew to really comprehend Torah m'Sinai, but that is emunah; who in their right mind can possibly believe the stupidity of the chassidic nonsense which emanates from an ignoramus?

Imagine if you will, Art Scroll gedolim stories, turning into another branch of Judaism in a few hundred years.

The entire concept of the kabbalistic ten sfiros, the sum total of the sfiros representing Hashem;how far away is that from Christianity, where the Trinity is the sum total of their Divinity?

How far away is the tzaddik or rebbe, who through his holiness, is capable of representing the chassid to Hashem; to "Yushka", who through him only can you reach the Kingdom Of God?

The" coming ressurection" of the Lubavitcher Rebbe demonstrates how far afield of Judaism ALL the chassidic groups have gone.

The Gerrer Rebbe is now assurring his flock, that Moshiach will arrive in the next year or so.
He is a sick, delusional idiot who deserves a good flogging.
Hey, putz, if Moshiach is coming in the next year or so, he surely did not tell an ignoramus like you.
You behaima, stop taking whatever drugs you are on.
When he doesn't come, then what?
You make me sick, feh!

The entire concept of a Jew needing an intemediary to get heard by Hashem was and is a fraud.One should have to dump their entire head down the toilet in shame, if they believe in this apikorsus.

This dveykus garbage, where one should cleave to their rebbe, is the BIGGGEST mentally dysfunctional illness of Chassidism.
Who the hell is this rebbe that he should be cleaved to?
I will tell you who, gangsters.
The Mafia godfathers, also had their underlings cleave to them.
The same type of fear, one physical, one emotional.

How in the world does anyone buy into this?

How ill does one have to be to cleave to a putz without a job?

His ONLY job is screwing you out of your money and independence.
What in the world do you need this parasite for?
Have these scam artists so emotionally paralyzed you, that if you let go of them , you fear divine retribution?

We have watched in horror the goings on among the chassidim.
They have bastardized our faith with their hocus pocus.
Their rebbes are the greatest con artists of the group, bleeding their sheep for whatever, and having them go to jail for their thefts.

Buddhists, Hindus and Scientologists have more credibilty than these groups of peasants.

The original post war rebbes of Satmar and Klausenberg were well intentioned and learned people.
They gave their lives to the klal, and had an honest agenda.One can differ with their world view which I do with vehemence, especially Satmar, but one has to respect their drive to reestablish and rebuild the lives of the remnants of their respective communities.

The Lubavitcher Rebbe, Menachem Mendel, was a brilliant and charismatic figure, who had his own agenda of note.
Unfortunately his movement went awry with sheer insanity, especially the Moshiach movement, which catapaulted his religion into something other than Judaism.
He could have stopped it, either he went crazy in his old age, or worse, he believed it.
Nevertheless, he left an unmatched legacy of chessed and kiruv, that has way surpassed any other chassidic groups.

These three rebbes were legitimate heirs of their respective chassidus, they were talmidei chachomim and sincere people.
They believed in their own brands of Judaism, although it was based on voodoo theories.
The only reason I can somehow tolerate them, is because as human beings they had integrity.
The money they raised, was for their version of what was good for Yiddishkeit.
They were self-sacrificing, and I believe well intentioned, although absolutely wrong in their distinct approaches.
They filled a need at the time, which was to restore sanity to their followers after the war.
They should have discontinued this demented ideology, and embrace Torah true Judaism.
But something weird happens to people when scores of people put them on a pedestal.
Their sense of self gets distorted, and if they become the ultimate authority without anyone to answer to, megalomania sets in.
Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

The chassidus of today is organized crime, no more.
They,the Mafia, also had big hats, and stole whatever they could.
Every single chassidus today, is corrupt from head to toe.
Their rebbes lead and mislead their idiot followers to a life of frivolity.
Meaningless gatherings, to waiting up all night to get a bracha from the top honcho, is just another con game.
There is no meaning in dancing and swaying with the rebbe.
There is no sense in partaking from his leftover food.
There is no benefit in getting a feel good bracha from these guys.
It is ONE BIG HOAX, and the joke is on you, you demented behaimas.

The present Satmar is composed of a bunch of hoodlums with their rebbe at the helm, and is a shameful example of what went wrong with all these chassidic movements.

Satmar gave birth to the Neturai Karta, the behaimas that met with Arafat, may he drop dead again.
The first Rebbe, unfortunately, was off the wall with his hate of what he called the Medinas Yisroel.
He was the prime mover and shaker, pitting Jew against Jew.I am sure, that his soul is paying the price for this form of terrorism.
For whatever his thoughts on the secular Jews, his hate mongering was the sign of a man who was irrational and worse.
He approved and condoned the open displays of hate from his followers.

The present rebbe, a former stockbroker and a shady one to boot, inherited the job because R' Yoel had no sons.
On the merits of his right to this job, other than being a Teitelbaum, he had none.

There was another Joel Teitelbaum, who was a cousin of the rebbe.
He came over after the war, and called himself the Satmar Rebbe.
He raised money, until his cousin and other people from Satmar came, and put an end to his fraud.
He changed his name to the Kirhauser Rebbe.
He was uncovered to be a KAPO, or a Nazi collaborator, during the war.
In other words, he beat the hell out of fellow Jews and worse.

When one of his kids were doing a shidduch, and the prospective machatunim met, the machatainester fainted on the spot because she recognized him as the kapo that beat her almost to death.No, this shidduch did not take place.

He established a shul, and became a "mover and shaker" in the nursing home business.

He" moved" dead bodies from freezer to freezer, collecting their social security checks in the meanwhile.
The ones that were still alive, he" shaked" whatever money they had out of them, by stealing their mail and bank accounts.

He defrauded the government and every single investor that trusted him.
After all, he was a rebbe!
He should rot in hell!

The Spinka Rebbe was whisked away one Shabbos during davening by the police, he screamed Shabbos, Shabbos!!The people he abused in his nursing homes had nobody to scream to when he abused them, stole their social security checks, and gave them rotten food.
When the old people died, this great tzaddik, may he rot in hell, froze their bodies, to be able to keep collecting the government stipends.
He was part of the notorious Bergman family, or the "Nursing Home Mafia" as described by the New York Times.
Bernard Bergman, Israel Braunstein and Moses Braunstein went to jail.
There is another Braunstein in the news, government auditors are looking into millions of dollars of medicaid money that can not be accounted for from his nursing home.
It's in their blood, they are sick!

Damn these animals; the mitzvah of burying the dead within twenty four hours of death, goes in the garbage when there is money to be stolen. The mitzvah of "escorting the dead" to him meant, escort, "after" all the money was sucked out of the family and the social security number.

His two behaimeshe gangster mamzeirim run Spinka today. Monkeys in black garb.

Hertz Frankel, aka the" Satmar Gonniff" stole tens of millions of dollars throughout his thirty years at Satmar.
The government finally caught up with him, he plea bargained, and stayed out of jail.
Do not tell me that the Rebbe did not know where all these millions came from.

Leib Pinter, the notorious Bnai Torah fraudster, stole millions of dollars for non existent government lunch programs.
EVERY SINGLE CHASSIDIC MOSAD PARTICIPATED WILLFULLY AND KNOWINGLY WITH PINTER.
Munkascz, Vishnitz, Ger, Belz, Satmar,Skver, Bobov, and all the other midgets with fur hats and long filthy black bathrobes, had a direct hand in this and all other government frauds through Pinter and his cohorts.
Pinter went to jail.
Pinter has been indicted again for mortgage fraud.

He is the "energizer" goniff, he keeps stealing & stealing & stealing.....

When they got caught, these nice guys, rebbes, threw the front men to the dogs.

There was drug money laundering, and drug selling through Bobov.
Maher Reiss went to jail.

The Munkaczer's brother, the Dinover Rebbe, brother in-law of the Vyepoler Rebbe(Frankel's shul in Flatbush), was caught drug smuggling.

But they have pretty shuls and fancy homes.

Every single time records had to be produced, all of a sudden the files somehow got destroyed by fire.

WOW! Hashem certainly created this "nes "so these thieves can keep their businesses going.
"Viheney boar b'aish v'hasneh ukol!", these guys certainly deserved Divine intervention, as Moshe did!This time somehow, Hashem decided that the fire SHOULD destroy the phony records.
Skver,Bobov,Munkascz,Satmar,Gur....all had fire sales.

YOU CRIMINALS ALTER THE TORAH TO SUIT YOUR DEMENTIA.YOU ALL BELONG IN MENTAL HOSPITALS WHEN YOU GET OUT OF JAIL.
YOU GUYS SICKEN ME! THERE IS NOT AN HONEST PERSON AMONG YOU!

I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR AL CAPONE THAN I HAVE FOR YOU.
HE DID NOT HIDE HIS FRAUD AND THEFT BEHIND GOD!

Shlomo Halberstam, the first misfit of Bobov, landed in New York after the war.He had his butt fired at the first shul that hired him, because he could not learn a blatt G'mora.

This holy genius moved to Crown Heights and ran a kindergarten.
His job was to give the kids candies.I swear this is true, I spoke to one of those" kids."

A few lunatic admirers of this Don Juan, decided to move him to Boro Park.So what that he had no clue about learning.
He made them feel good, what else matters?

He was a master at his game.So what that his father advised his kehilla in Poland not to worry about the Nazis, and assurred them that no harm would come to them.
He was a" holy" man, surely his bracha had G-D's seal of approval.
Well, you know the end of that story.

The "holy" men from Gur and Belz gave the same advice to their followers.
They would do and say anything to hold on to their little kingdoms.
Can you not see that these guys are meaningless people, who without the soap box you put them on would be wagon drivers?

The fight going on at Bobov now for the "malchus," is about money and power, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH G-D.
One guy is a bigger retard than the other.
Take away the real estate and money, they both would be driving cabs.

Years ago, Stoliner chassidim crowned a nine year old kid as their rebbe.
You tell me that these guys are normal.

The Chabad telethon sums up the present day status of that group.

The Rebbe's picture is their avoda zara.You have Christians, Asians, shvartzes, and drug addicts doing the hora around the Rebbe.

Cunin and his family have managed to accumulate one hundred fifty million dollars in real estate, and have ruined people's lives by having the secular courts confiscate any property that housed a "Chabad shul", even though they, the Cunin's, had nothing to do with it. In other words, they became the franchisers for the Chabad name.
The Kentucky Fried Chicken of chassidus, with Cunin as Colonel Sanders.

When a bais din ruled AGAINST Cunin,this shyster, who has free access to first rate attorneys, took it to secular court, AGAINST THE RULING OF THE "CHABAD" BAIS DIN.

This" holy" guy, has a direct line to the Rebbe, and I am sure that is what the Rebbe advised him to do.
Cunin hangs out every month at the kever, midst a whole community of Lubavitchers who are waiting for him to dust himself off and reveal himself.Cunin has got to know something we don't.

A historical note of interest.
None of the direct descendants of the first Lubavitcher Rebbe, R' Shneur Zalman, are frum.In matter of fact one of his sons converted to Catholicism.

The sad part about all of this, because the world today is in such upheavel, people look to other people to make them feel good.
The chances of this mental illness called chassidus to go away any time soon, is not promising.
People are spending billions of dollars on anti-depressants and other types of feel good drugs.
The guys in the black coats are their Opium.

If you will continue to rely on people for all that is wrong in your life, why not put true ehrliche Yiden at the helm.
Why settle for ignoramuses and thieves?
Do away with these purveyors of idiotic dogma and rituals.

Do not wait for the Moshiach, you be your own liberator.
There are no "seventy two virgins"waiting for you, or whatever your version of that BS is.

GOOD LUCK!

posted by Un-Orthodox Jew | 10:18 PM

37 Comments:
GOOD JEW said...
You definetely got molested when you were a kid

10:40 PM
Anonymous said...
You are overlooking the fact that all the Nissim G'dolim of the modern era happen to chassidim! If you don't believe me, I can point you to many books with tales of wonder.

11:15 PM
David Kelsey said...
Lots of info on this post!!

How come the previous Satmer Rebbe was allowed to give a eulohy to RAK at Lakewood?

What did Frankel do, exactly?

I don;t know the rank of the people in the organizations you name - could you explain the significance of subjects in future posts? Otherwise, outside of the most well-known Chassic groups and leaders, I just know someone from say, Bobov did it, cause I don't know his title or rank.

Any good stories from the Stonliner 9 yr old Rebbe, like when he hit puberty? When was this, btw?

11:56 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Good Jew,

OH,OK!Thanks for telling me, genius!

12:08 AM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Anonymous,

I have a few bridges to sell you,you naive imbecile!

12:10 AM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Hi David,

In most cases, the guys who handle the money have a personal relationship with the rebbe.

These organizations are tightly controlled by a few close confidants, who report directly to the big cahuna.

That is why the rebbes are directly complicit in these crimes.

12:20 AM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
David,

RAK and the Satmar Rebbe,with all their ideological differences, had a common goal of restoring Judaism to their pre-war European versions.

They had alot of respect for each other although RAK refused to let Satmar students into the yeshivah for many years.

When RAK ultimately relented,he refused to let the chassidic students wear their shtreimels(fur shabbos hats)in the bais medrash.

They were in contact with each other, and I am told ,liked each other personally.

12:37 AM
Anonymous said...
you're a liar

12:52 AM
Normal Chasid said...
UO,

You really went off the deep end this time...sorry, but someone who calls the BESHT an ignoramus is not someone I can even begin to have an open dialogue with.

2:06 AM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Normal Chasid,

Factual history is on my side!

2:10 AM
Anonymous said...
I refer you to my comment about you being a liar.

2:27 AM
Anonymous said...
Your facts are wrong. The Ari did not write the Zohar - it was R' Moshe de Leon that either wrote, compiled or copied it from earlier manuscripts - depends on what you believe.

3:44 AM
Chaim Berlin said...
Unorthodox, you must have had a bad shabbes!!
Firstly you got the dates and information wrong.The Ari (acronyom of:Ha'eloki rabbi yitzchak Luria)was born in 1534 and died in 1572 not the thirteenth century! The Zohar was publicized by Moses De Leon in the 13th century in Spain.(gosh your ignorance is quite appalling!)The rest of your diatribe is quite scary even for yours truly a misnaged.What a strange mix of fact and fiction.For Example:R'Shlomo Halberstam opened his first yeshivah on the West Side and later moved to Crown Heights.He was the boss of this albeit smaller version of todays Bobov , but surely was not hired as a kindergarten teacher in his own school!!!By the time he was in Crown Heights, Bobov was an organized community with quite a few followers.
You comments about the Ba'al Shem Tov are quite ridiculous.How can you say that the 'facts' prove
you right?Does anybody know for a fact that he was not a talmid chochom?In fact many of his disciples were known talmidei chachomim such as the Toldos who was a well known rov BEFORE he became a chosid, or the unchallenged fact that R'Shneour Zalman of Liadi, later first Chabad rebbe was one of the foremost rabbis of his time!!!
All this from a misnaged, like myself!

3:58 AM
Anonymous said...
It is very difficult to know what to believe. So many stories about rebbeim and leaders from centuries ago have been turned into myths...so much fiction has come to be accepted as fact...and there is so much we simply don't know. Most people, for instance, believe it is a FACT that the Maharal created a golem. And so on. IN the end, we must rely in large measure on our common sense and determine what stream of Yiddishkeit is the most satisfying. For some, dancing and shuffling around in a circle is the height of spiritual experience. Others, such as this writer, may think such experiences next to meaningless. Others put a lot of emphasis on the hat. Hats to me are also meaningless.

7:37 AM
David Kelsey said...
UO,

Tell me what I am missing - my understanding was that the Ashkenaz (Misnagid) version of prayer was the straightforward shemonah esrai as drafted by the men o fthe Great Assembly -so how come all the Hassidim and the Sephardic Jews put all this Kabbala stuff in there?

Also - if there is doubt about the authorship of some of the Kabbalah texts- why didn't the Litvaks just say "we don't hold by it" intead of giving it some, if limited, place on the back shelf?

Also - why did they accept Kabbalah Shabbat prayers a few hundred years ago? Wasn't this service started by the ARI, except for those two short prayers at the end?

9:54 AM
David Kelsey said...
One other question, a more general one:

I don't understand how, if the Chassidic movement is indeed to a large degree a corrupt and false movement - and I;m not saying it is not - how come it hasn't been discredited or removed from the Jewish world like all false movmeents throughout history, from the Essense to the Sadduccees to the Kairites?

Also - didn't Moshe, Joshua and the kings of Israel act like Rebbes in many ways? Is there not a precedent for this sort of structure if the leaders are worthy? And the kings were chosen in large part by heredity, like the Rebbes.

Now, obviously there was a checks and balance system - the Sanhedrin and Priests - that the Rebbes don't have - but the ouside world of options has some level of checks and balances -no single group has the power.

I guess I'm asking - how deviant are the least radical of the Chassidim, like Sloanim?

11:28 AM
Normal Chasid said...
UO,

What ARE your facts? Did you have a direct vision from the BESHT's Rebbe saying he did not learn well as a child?

As Chaim Berlin stated most earlier Rebbes were knows Talmidai Chachomim and Rabbonim well before they became Chassidic.

As David Kelsey stated there is a precedent suchas Moshe Rebeinu and Yehoshua for following leaders.

Take the Posuk Vayamini Bahashem u'vMoshe Avdo!

12:43 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Chaim Berliner,

I stand corrected on the dates the ARI lived.

He, NOT De-Leon turned the Kabbalistic writings into a movement.
It was the ARI,who actually compiled the works and his theories into what is the Zohar.

Many respected rabbonim thought he was delirious with his theories, and certainly until today,is frowned upon by the yeshivas.

Regarding Bobov,his movement did not begin until he moved to Crown Heights.
He opened his doors on St. Johns Place with a kindergarten,and handed out candies to the kids as they got off the bus.
He had about twenty people who davened with him on Shabbos,in the kindergarten classroom.
He was asked to leave his first job in Manhattan.

1:10 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
David,

Agreed,alot of the writings of the Kabballah got inserted into the davening.

That is what happens when alot of people over a long period of time let this questionable material into their lives.

Eventually,it winds up as conventional prayers.
You can look at the many different siddurim out there;nusach ashkenaz, nusach sfard, nusach Ari, all have added or subtracted various different traditional prayers.

Tfilla, was in itself, created after the destruction of the second Bais Hamikdosh.

1:19 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
David,

The Vilna Gaon did in fact call the Besht a lunatic and a heretic.

Lubavitch has in fact been put outside of Judaism.

The overwhelming number of Jews that embraced Chassidism,because of their philosophy of song and dance and meditation,made it appealing to the simpleton.

Time will tell if in fact they can continue to exist.
Gur Rebbe, starting talk of his knowledge of the coming of Moshiach,is just another example of the slippery slope they are walking down.

Regarding Lubavitch,the son of the first Rebbe had converted to Catholicism, and practically no direct descendant is frum today.

1:31 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
David,

We can not even for one second, compare the leadership of Moshe, Yehoshua and Dovid Hamelech to chassidic dynasties.

Moshe had his direct orders from Hashem, including the lineage of leaders that would follow him.

The chassidic dynasties survive by a version of Darwin's theory of survival of the "misfitists".

A previous comment was made that some rebbes are talmidei chachomim.
Yes, so was the Lubavitcher Rebbe.

Most rebbes alive today are ignoramuses!

2:01 PM
chaim berlin said...
Unorthodox,
Please don't bore me with your ignorant claptrack.
IF you had no idea when the Ari lived, don't sell yourself as an expert on the Zohar!
By the time the Ari came around, the Zohar had been very extensively circulated throughout the Jewish world and Moses De Leon eas the central 13 century figure in that dissemination.
True that the Ari gave the study of Kabbala a very strong ,mainstream push.
Btw, what's wrong with a Rebbe giving candies to kids??

2:35 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Chaim Berlin,

Meet you tonight at Mincha,and slug it out once and for all.

I am proud that I know nothing about the Zohar,I know nothing about Scientology either.

2:49 PM
chaim berlin said...
I despise people who are ignorant and proud of it!

3:06 PM
Anonymous said...
How can you meet Mr. Gur Aryeh? Are you also in Machane Moishe greeting Mike Bloomberg along with smiles-too-much-Shachter?

3:06 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Chaim Berlin,

You remind me of the retarded ,dumbest kids in the yeshiva who knew s..., but could not wait to catch the rebbe in a mistake.
He would give a two hour pilpul,these morons could barely stay awake,but if he misquoted a posuk, they were all over him.

You obviously are an ignorant PUTZ, who is under the influence of retard Schachter.

You can't handle the truth,and ignore the entire "pilpul", because it is way over your head.

3:54 PM
sechel said...
your comments would have more validity without the personal degradations.The facts can stand on their own.

6:04 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Sechel,

There is nothing like some "colorful" expressions of endearment to call attention to the facts.

6:49 PM
Rachack said...
you're right, there is nothing like it.

7:04 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
Rachak,

I think this is the first time you are agreeing with me.
Much obliged.

7:14 PM
Anonymous said...
Un-ortho--Go get a fuckin job

7:26 PM
Un-Orthodox Jew said...
I have a job;getting animals like you pissed off at me telling the truth!

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7:52 PM
Rachack said...
Actually, Mr. UO, if you got your facts straight this is the second time that I agreed with you. The first time was here

8:26 PM
Anonymous said...
Firstly, RAK and Satmar were diametrically opposed to each other. However, the did share one thing in common: Satmar held “nishtakech toras Habaal Shem Tov” He turned Satmar into Hungrain litvaks. The story goes that once Reb Yollish (YT) met RAK and he started going on his usual Israel rant etc. etc. As usual, YT referred to everyone that participated in the elections a “min” and an apikores. RAK went ballistic when he heard this. He said that he can handle things said about himself, but he would never tolerate the bashing of his father-in-law, Reb Isser Zalman Meltzer. It is said that they rarely spoke to each other since that incident. However, YT was a master of deceit and words. He was also a smart man and he knew that the “yeshiva world” needed to be loved. At RAK levaya, YT started crying and he quoted a Rashi about Ahron Hakohen that said “Lehagid shvacho shel Ahron shelo shina”. He basically bought off the entire yeshiva world with a quote from Rashi. There is no doubt that YT was a very smart and learned man. However, he was the initiator of orthodox terrorism. He actually started terrorizing in Europe before the war. If you didn’t agree with him, he went on a complete offensive. The only people that stood up to him were Lubavich. Everyone else crapped in their pants because of him. Even Hutner was completely petrified of him. Hutner was probably scared because he learned by Rav Kook and YT considered Rav Kook to be worse than Herzl. YT probable bought him a lifetime supply of Cola and he did what was told. People still a wonder why Hutner stopped learning chasidus with Lubavich…………. Hmmmmm…….

Secondly, I do not see the significance of bringing up the religious status of anyone’s offspring. Our forefathers had children who until this day, are our greatest enemies. Many leaders, great and small, have had children who went against them. It is a completely irrelevant attack on a person.

Thirdly, your insights on Bobov are completely uncalled for. R’ Shlomo Halberstam (RSH) never harmed anyone. I am not a bobover, and I am chassidish. I have never heard anyone knock RSH. He never claimed to be a “bal mofes” and . There are many so-called “gedolim” who have defrauded the Jewish nation and deserve much much higher priority. His intentions were honest and noble. He suffered tremendously during WWII and he didn’t even want to be in the Rabbinate when he came to the USA. RSH resurrected Polish Jewry and he did the Polish community what Satmar did to the Hungarians. The legend goes that Satmar even tried to bring RSH under his spell of ant-Semitism. RSH claimed that he didn’t understand the SHITa and moved to Boro Park. RSH set up many institutions in Israel and visited on numerous occasions. He had no enemies and he was true mentch. What the present Babooners are doing today have nothing to do with him and RSH should in no way be held accountable.

11:40 PM
Am Echad said...
Firstly, RAK and Satmar were diametrically opposed to each other. However, the did share one thing in common: Satmar held “nishtakech toras Habaal Shem Tov” He turned Satmar into Hungrain litvaks. The story goes that once Reb Yollish (YT) met RAK and he started going on his usual Israel rant etc. etc. As usual, YT referred to everyone that participated in the elections a “min” and an apikores. RAK went ballistic when he heard this. He said that he can handle things said about himself, but he would never tolerate the bashing of his father-in-law, Reb Isser Zalman Meltzer. It is said that they rarely spoke to each other since that incident. However, YT was a master of deceit and words. He was also a smart man and he knew that the “yeshiva world” needed to be loved. At RAK levaya, YT started crying and he quoted a Rashi about Ahron Hakohen that said “Lehagid shvacho shel Ahron shelo shina”. He basically bought off the entire yeshiva world with a quote from Rashi. There is no doubt that YT was a very smart and learned man. However, he was the initiator of orthodox terrorism. He actually started terrorizing in Europe before the war. If you didn’t agree with him, he went on a complete offensive. The only people that stood up to him were Lubavich. Everyone else crapped in their pants because of him. Even Hutner was completely petrified of him. Hutner was probably scared because he learned by Rav Kook and YT considered Rav Kook to be worse than Herzl. YT probable bought him a lifetime supply of Cola and he did what was told. People still a wonder why Hutner stopped learning chasidus with Lubavich…………. Hmmmmm…….

Secondly, I do not see the significance of bringing up the religious status of anyone’s offspring. Our forefathers had children who until this day, are our greatest enemies. Many leaders, great and small, have had children who went against them. It is a completely irrelevant attack on a person.

Thirdly, your insights on Bobov are completely uncalled for. R’ Shlomo Halberstam (RSH) never harmed anyone. I am not a bobover, and I am chassidish. I have never heard anyone knock RSH. He never claimed to be a “bal mofes” and . There are many so-called “gedolim” who have defrauded the Jewish nation and deserve much much higher priority. His intentions were honest and noble. He suffered tremendously during WWII and he didn’t even want to be in the Rabbinate when he came to the USA. RSH resurrected Polish Jewry and he did the Polish community what Satmar did to the Hungarians. The legend goes that Satmar even tried to bring RSH under his spell of ant-Semitism. RSH claimed that he didn’t understand the SHITa and moved to Boro Park. RSH set up many institutions in Israel and visited on numerous occasions. He had no enemies and he was true mentch. What the present Babooners are doing today have nothing to do with him and RSH should in no way be held accountable.

11:40 PM
Good Jew said...
Un ortho is a bochur in yeshiva who has access to the yeshiva's computer and spews all his shit online. He is 18 yrs old and he is not in real estate (unless you consider living in a dormitory real estate)He is known to be the most depressed kid in the whole yeshiva and therefore he writes all his hate online. Just know that his thoughts are not from some respected guy who made it big in the world like he tries to make an image of himself, but rather he is a bochur who doesnt try hard enough.